Thanks, Jeff-
I appreciate the response and will get back to you if I need to follow up on the MyInfo side….
John
From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Langemeier
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Concurrent Enrollment High Schools
As far as I know there's no modification to the Banner system, it seems to be stored elsewhere as we don't set the instructors for the HS sections in Banner (in SSASECT and SIAINST as faculty) as we don't want them to have full access to the faculty tab in MyInfo (Student Self Service portal); but we do assign them via GID to the sections in the MyInfo portal. While we do have all of these schools in SOASBGI, that's for incoming student information NOT for usage with the MyInfo form.
I would have to ask the Student Services team to find out exactly where the school information is stored; but it doesn't seem to be stored anywhere that we'd regularly access with a Banner query. On the MyInfo form, the name of the query being hit is pk_ws_dualcred_hs which may give some indication of where/how the information is being pulled (or at least it could give clues on what functions to query to find some of the data.
TL;DR Version: Instructors are stored in Banner but aren't set via SIAINST as faculty so they can't be assigned to sections in SSASECT. The schools are not built into Banner tables such as SOASBGI, instead they're built into a secondary form that's accessible through MyInfo. This setup allows us to assign the instructors to the sections & schools via a separate MyInfo form for each term.
I hope this helps a bit, and I can reach out to ESG here if you'd like to us track down more information.
-- Jeff
Jeffrey Langemeier | Data Systems Director
Direct: 406.994.3909 | Main 406.994.6650 | Fax: 406.994.1972
Montana State University | 101 Montana Hall | PO Box 172660
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:45:12 AM
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Subject: Re: Concurrent Enrollment High Schools
Hi Jeff-
Can you explain a bit more about the MyInfo entry? It appears you enter the High School in your DualCredit Instructor Assignments and have the ability to add new ones there as well. Where does that information get stored? Is this a modification to your Banner system?
Thanks,
John
From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Langemeier
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:56 AM
To: MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Concurrent Enrollment High Schools
Hey Folks,
In Bozeman, we use the campus code “DC” in SSASECT to note our Dual Enrollment courses. We also make a note is SSATEXT of the Dual Enrollment High School for that section. As we don't want to pollute a shared table (STVBLDG) with various high schools, we do not have the schools built into Banner for use in SSASECT.
I've also included our internal documentation on building in the sections and instructors for review & usage as other campus' see fit. This document covers our process from end to end for all Dual Enrollment courses.
Thanks everyone,
Jeff
Jeffrey Langemeier | Data Systems Director
Direct: 406.994.3909 | Main 406.994.6650 | Fax: 406.994.1972
Montana State University | 101 Montana Hall | PO Box 172660
From: MACRAO Listserv <MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU> on behalf of Thunstrom, John <JThunstrom@MSO.UMT.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:56:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Concurrent Enrollment High Schools
Thanks, Leslie!
John
From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Dickerson, Leslie - Enrollment Services
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 4:32 PM
To: MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Concurrent Enrollment High Schools
Hi John, the information can be found for Montana Tech students by linking to the high school for the enrolled student. We do not record the high school in association with the actual course section.
Leslie Dickerson
Montana Tech
Registrar/Director of Enrollment Services
(406) 496-4879
From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Thunstrom, John
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 3:05 PM
To: MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU
Subject: Concurrent Enrollment High Schools
Good afternoon-
Just following up on an item from the MACRAO meeting. I’m hoping that a representative from each school could pass along how you are recording which high schools are teaching concurrent enrollment courses in your Banner system. I’ll compile a list and use it to start putting together some information on what coursework is being offered in each location and through which schools.
If you need additional information, please let me know and thanks again for inviting me to your meeting. I enjoyed the discussion!
John
John Thunstrom
MUS IT Director
Office of the Commissioner of Higher Education
(406) 544-3822
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