Thursday, November 19, 2015

Re: Gender Identity on Admission Applications

The only reason financial aid needs to know is because of selective service requirements. That is probably where we need some additional research on what reporting requirements actually are.  

 

Sarah Dellwo, Director of Admissions and Records

 

1115 North Roberts

Helena, MT 59601

(p) 406-447-6908 (f) 406-447-6397

www.umhelena.edu

 

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From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Nicole Zimmerman
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:21 AM
To: MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Gender Identity on Admission Applications

 

Good morning,

 

Maybe I am not understanding, but if coded on an application would you capture that data that they self-identify instead of biological and have that coded in banner? This may or may not be a problem, but how would this affect students with financial aid, where data collection/upload would not match.  I know we had this issue as a student identified themselves as a female on an application, but on their FAFSA they had to identify as a male. If I remember correctly we had to code them as male until the student had it changed with the Social Security office.

 

Nicole Zimmerman

 

Nicole Zimmerman

Admissions Evaluator

Great Falls College MSU

2100 16th Avenue South

Great Falls, MT  59405

Phone 406.771.4420 or 800.446.2698 ext 4420

Fax 406.771.2267

www.gfcmsu.edu

 

 

From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Kristi Peterson
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:11 AM
To: MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Gender Identity on Admission Applications

 

I like the self identification plan.

 

We just completed Safe Zone training yesterday and this topic came up. I am going to review some of our materials and work with Student Success as a whole. I think we can make this work and work better! As for matching options in Banner… please, keep us informed!!

 

Kristi

 

 

 

From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Dellwo, Sarah
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 5:04 PM
To: MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU
Subject: Re: Gender Identity on Admission Applications

 

Hi Cheri,

 

This has come up as a passing conversation here. I believe what they want the wording on the application to be changed so the student will indicate the gender they identify with. The idea is that the student would be coded the gender they identify themselves. I have not really delved into much at this point. Do you think there would be reporting issues with that?

 

Sarah Dellwo, Director of Admissions and Records

 

1115 North Roberts

Helena, MT 59601

(p) 406-447-6908 (f) 406-447-6397

www.umhelena.edu

 

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From: MACRAO Listserv [mailto:MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Johannes, Cheri
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 4:21 PM
To: MACRAO@LISTSERV.GFCMSU.EDU
Subject: Gender Identity on Admission Applications

 

Me again.

 

Anyone having conversations about this being added to/changed on the admission applications at your institutions to be more inclusive ?  Seems it is a topic for the Student Affairs Officers, but it didn’t surface at MACRAO so I thought I’d check.


I believe I heard someone mention that they are ‘working with Ellucian’ to add this to banner; however, when I asked some questions about any movement for inclusion in IPEDs it does not sound like that is currently under discussion.

 

At present I believe even for the gender descriptor of ‘unknown’ in banner requires for reporting that we arbitrarily assign M or F gender.

 

Just hoping that if it really is a topic for inclusion in admission applications, that admission, registrar, and IR staff as well as legal counsel are included in the conversation and the Student Affairs Officers are aware of the limitations.

 

Cheri

 

 


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